I never said I loved Jesus, I just wrote a small amount about his life and how he lived.

I am not one to allow sadistic fasicts to get away with genocide, much ess murdering friends or family. This is just one of a hundred ways, I suppose< I’m a lot different than Jesus.

When Muslims, in the name of Islam, kill hundreds of thousands of innocents in Sudan I personally find it wrong to turn the other cheek. That’s just me.

When Muslims, in the name of Islam, threaten to wipe out noble, good people like the Jews in Israel, I find it wrong to look the other way.

What can I tell you? I guess I’m not Jesus.

The IRA are terrorists who happen to be Catholic. Islamic terrorists whether they be in the Taliban, the Palestinian territories, or at Fort Hood, are practicing the teachings of a mainstream sect of Islam.

Generalizing muslims as terrorist is the same as calling catholics(Irish Republican Army) as terrorists and protestants(KKK) as racist.

I have no legacy of anti-semitism and I have no feelings(neither sympathy/hatred) about jews but I DON’T understand why jews always complain that there community is in a danger.

“This is a campus that promotes critical thinking, research and powerful dialogue based on facts and evidence … I thrive on dialogue with my counter-politically inclined students … No respecting institution of higher education would allow the visit of such a despicable individual to visit its campus”

Then hit him over the head with the dictionary so it’ll sink in.

I think Horowitz’s visit seems allegorical to Ahmadinejad’s visit to the U.S., though perhaps fortunately for us Horowitz represents far less of a threat as his circle of influence is comparably miniscule. They both share empty rhetoric based on half-truths and stereotypes. Both project their own fears onto “the other”. In this way, Bush and Bin Laden shared much in common as well… both claimed god to be on their side for what amounted to a virtual holy war (see LA Times Editorial page several years ago, placing their speeches side by side in comparison).

Where is the critical dialogue in this university, especially with speakers such as Horowitz and Coulter?

I have great respect for all groups who employ depthful analysis and criticality in their journey. Horowitz is not among them. The term “Islamofascist” is used by performers and entertainers of the radical right wing such as Rush Limbaugh and (on our own campus not too long ago) Ann Coulter. All due respect, if “free speech” and not “hate speech” was the topic, the term would never be bandied about. Not only does it isolate an entire religious community, but it misunderstands the term “fascism” in the most heinous and frankly ironic way.

When corporate entities merge with the ruling state, the term “fascism” applies. The small sector of fundamentalist muslims who gather around the principles put forth by Al Qaeda and others are anything but fascist. They loathe the corporate / state hegemony. This is their primary rallying cry, their target. Bin Laden railed against corporate monopoly and globalization, especially of his famous (Bush-family-friendly) Saudi clan. And, need we be reminded, liberation (of the mind) comes with our expanded capacity to sustain complexities.

Do the college republicans purport that Horowitz represents complex thinking? I thrive on dialogue with my counter-politically inclined students – most of whom I find exceptionally intelligent. I shudder to think that any of them attended this vacuous event.

The college republicans who participated in Horowitz’s visit have shamed their legacy on this campus and ridiculed their academic integrity. And I know that the vast majority of Republicans find Horowitz as shameful as the vast majority of Democrats are probably embarrassed by similar simplistic sloganeering.

Again, my hat’s off to Alex Shams and the progressive students on campus. Standing and turning their back on Horowitz, all due respect to Ms. Larrabee, did nothing to block or disrupt a person whose very presence blocks and disrupts the good name of our university. I find the notion of “neutrality” from USC administrators under these circumstances to be frankly shameful.

Brent Blair
Director, Applied Theatre Arts
USC School of Theatre

he died in 632- when islam had only reached the cities of mecca, medina, and the surrounding countryside. How much rape and torture could he have plausibly done by 632 (having fled mecca in 622 for medina), especially given that Medina converted of its volition, and mecca was the city muhammad came from?

i understand if you say the islamic empire killed people- obviously it did, like any empire (say, the roman empire under the christians, or the byzantines?)- but bringing up the prophet shows a wanton disregard of factual history regarding the spread of Islam and the dates as well as regions involved.

i think he also said something about loving your enemy…so u can try doing that to

and i think discussing something over coffee is far better than mudslinging via internet, although i imagine if i did go with AB to coffee (or u) i have a feeling it would end very quickly in me throwing the coffee in ur face

If I may be so blod as to jump in here…

The “News” section of The Daily Trojan is not meant as a dating site but as a site to exchange ideas. You might try it sometime.

AB countered your sophomoric comments with some excellent insights and you responded with some senseless drivel and an invitation to coffee.

Somehow I doubt AB is interested in having coffee with you, but would be interested in hearing if you have anything to say about the topic at hand that actually adds to the debate.

According to your logic (sic) you are a racist for grouping us all together as if we were one uniform class of people deserving of hate.

Oh wait. I almost forgot. Racism refers to a race of people. How can Islam be a race?

Islam is a religion. Its prophet, Mohammed, spread Islam through murder, rape, piundering, torture, forced conversions, etc…

Since when is stating the facts consdiered a bad thing?

Is that why every sigdle day we hear about Buddhist suicide bombings?

You might consider learning just the basics behind “the big religions” before pretending to know anything about them.

Let me help you get started.

1) Mohammed planned and participated in wars. He killed, raped, took slaves, had a dozen wives, and encouraged his followers to emulate his example.

2) Buddha felt any death, even a small insect’s death, was a loss.

3) Jesus was a man of peace who turned his other cheek.

when i said radical christians i meant the kkk, not a fictional characters on the simpsons. if u go look @ the kkk website one of the 2nd or 3rd requirements is accepting jesus christ as your personal saviour.

our military leaders shouldn’t even be over in the middle east–its not our homeland–it belongs to both palestinians and israelis and i think if ppl. spent the money on humanitarian aid instead of military than the ppl who are upset about not having homes and their children starving might be more likely to sit down peacefully and discuss a diplomatic solution.

i always think killing ppl. is wrong, i don’t care what they did or who they are, its wrong and i know that its a fact of this reality that ppl. are killed, but i think we’ve done a bad job lessening that reality, we’ve made it more of a reality. there was no such thing as a suicide bomber in afghanistan till we got there…so i blame us.

In other words, you do deny that Islam has any particular correlation with homicidal lunacy. Do you really think that “religion” and “ideology” are commodities and there’s no difference between them? That kind of willful ignorance is comforting to kids like yourself, because it seems to say that your general ignorance of life is not a weakness. (Since all ideas and beliefs are equally wrong, it doesn’t matter if you don’t know anything!) Unfortunately in the adult world you have to deal with reality. Nidal Malik Hasan ranting about cutting off the heads of infidels is not equally benign as some Ned Flanders type inviting you to a bible study. Neither our military leaders nor Israel’s protectors have the luxury of living in a politically correct world where a person’s stated political and spiritual beliefs tell you nothing about how they are likely to behave.

im talking about ppl. who go to our school and you know it…and im talking about the countless cases of war profiteering that have taken place in iraq since we’ve gotten there. ppl are making mad money off of ppl dying and i do consider that a crime. especially when the day of preemptively attacking iraq was thrown around the day after 9/11

furthermore, no where did i mention that i think israel shouldn’t exist…i just think they should play by the rules everyone else does and not be coddled by the US (and by that i mean given absurd amounts of money and weaponry i think would be better used giving ppl who actually live in this country things like health care and cheaper education)

and i never intend on having a job interview, movies are much better done being the boss, but you’re more than welcome to go about your day 9-5

Because you made such narrow-minded comments about a particular group of people, i.e. Muslims, you lost all credibility in your argument. For instance, when you want to make a legitimate argument against someone who is being biased it might help not to be biased yourself.
Hope this helps!

Do you have any actual proof of this? Considering that he was under the military’s service for quite sometime…. and given the fact that the military has basically denied it’s terrorist related…

A similar incident happened at this place a few years ago. And these events happen frequently by American (christian) soldiers in Iraq. Are those people who consider 9/11 awesome?

Your “chickens come home to roost” argument is founded in ignorance. If our crime is letting “imperialism rule the day” then show me our empire. Does this have something to do with Guam? And since when is supporting free enterprise a crime that justifies a global jihad against innocent people? Perhaps you should ground your absurd statements in at least a veil of logical argument if you want to be taken seriously.

As I mentioned on the last page, those of you who have made yourselves useful idiots for Islamofascism are in for a rude awakening when you graduate from USC and try to succeed in the adult world. Piece of advice: don’t mention your belief that Israel doesn’t have a right to exist during a job interview.

you do realize the days after that happened the whole world was with us. millions of people across the globe, not just in european nations but in Muslim countries like Iran.

the reason everyone has so much animosity towards the united states right now is because we did something wrong…because we decided to let imperialism and capitalism rule the day, because we failed to be an informed citizenry and we failed to head the warning of our first president who warned us against standing armies and we failed to head the warnings of Eisenhower who said the military-industrial complex was something to be vigilant of.

there’s no point in bickering about it…its just deepening the wounds.

1. You must be a free white male or female of European descent, at least 18 years of age. (we do verify age)

2. You must be able to profess faith in Jesus Christ as personal Savior

3. You must not be married to or date people of other races, nor have mixed race dependants, this includes adopted children.

or here is a nice selection from LIFE magazine
http://www.life.com/image/85939422/in-gallery/25151/life-goes-inside-todays-kkk

NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS THINKS THIS IS RIGHT!!!!! NOT ANY “REAL” CHRISTIAN

JUST LIKE NO “REAL” MUSLIM THINKS EXTREMIST ORGANIZATIONS ARE AWESOME

When people embrace organizations like this, it is because they have no other choice. If you were a Palestinian and you children were starving and not a single Christian tried to help you, but Hamas offered your starving children food and humanitarian aid…what would you do?

You just do NOT get it. Provide the information showing the last time the KKK -or any Christian supremacist group– killed 13 and wounded 30 as happened yesterday thanks to a “devout” Muslim.

Show us! Don’t just lie about it as if it were so.

While you are at it…

Show us the last time the KKK was invited to and warmly embraced at a Christian gathering by a diverse group of Christians. For this is EXACTLY what happened when the genocidal leader of Sudan was invited to and warmly embraced at the Arab League Summit held in Qatar last Spring. (This WAS in MODERAYE Qatar.)

This is exactly what Horowtiz was talking about two days ago.

How is it all the leaders of the Arab wolrd could invite and embrace a genocidal leader as if he were Humpty Dumpty instead of the sadistic pig that he is? Does this suggest Horowitz is correct, i.e., Muslims do accept genocidal leaders –and even embrace them– as it is part of their core ethos? Remember, Mohammed WAS a warrior who killed many, many non-Muslims as “part of his job” as the warrior prohpet of Islam.

Riddle us that one Ibn.

Or, if you cannot explain why this is so common place in the Muslim world than tell us clearly why you are opposed to these actions by Muslims. (Watch Ibn will not condemn these acts just as he almost certainly did not condemn the acts of the 19 Muslims who carried out 9/11.)

This is what a generalization is, and this is what racism and Islamophobia are. Imagine if i took every statement the Klan made, and said “this is what white people agree with!!” This is how I feel when you write this- absolutely offended.

So if we’re gonna talk about racism, and the USC College Republicans, this is what I mean.

I thought everything David Horowitz said was very level headed and he brought a very reasoned response to what they were protesting. If they had listened instead of so rudely disrupting they would have found that out. As a former alumnus of USC I’m astonished that the administration would allow such events to take place.

I think the next logical step is to follow through on what DH said and look into SJPs funding of the Taliban and their systematic genocide of campus Jews. I think its pretty clear considering the number of Muslims in SJP that they are being funded by Hamas. Its time for the Christians to take back USC and steer it back towards its conservative roots of upstanding, white God-fearing individuals from dignified old money and entrepreneurs.

conservative cities tend to have more money because guess what conservative people tend to have a lot of money since a majority of them (white ppl.) have privileged positions, just like the both of us who attend an excellent university (so i doubt if either of our minds are stupid, check the deans list)

You are right. But you are wrong when the truth is the truth.

A few hours ago a devout Muslim American soildier killed a dozen American soildiers at Fort Hood. This is the truth.

The killer was a devout Muslim. This is the truth.

Muslims have killed close to 500,000 people in Sudan. This is the truth.

Muslims have killed or threatened to kill many people like David Horowitz. This IS the truth and it is why people like Horowtiz have security details protecting them 24/7. Ask Salman Rushdie or Ayaa Ali Hirsi if this is the truth.

You might ask Theo Van Gogh if this is true but a Muslim killed him. This is true.

And the following video is true too. The video is not scripted and the people speaking are not actors. They’re real Muslims threatening to kill a guy not all that different than David Horowtiz. They even mention Theo Van Gogh as an example of someone who was killed by a Muslim for speaking out about Islam and Muslims. This IS true, unless you can show me where it isn’t.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/10/uk-muslim-protesters-threaten-geert-wilders-well-have-his-head.html

Your truth is not THE truth.

Here are some direct quotes from the Islamic Awakening Forum’s website. Weird that it is exactly what Horowitz was saying and yet people claim he is an “Islamophobe” instead of a realist:

“One who defends the honour of his brother, Allah keeps the fire of hell away from his face on the Day of Judgment.”

“But anyway, a brave and honorable mujahid indeed. I’m sure he was perfectly OK with the treachery of taking the military oath of service, training with other loyal Americans, and then turning his guns on them. But the good thing is that it shows the world how clever Muslims are. “

If the following is the same UN you and I have in mind tell me why anyone should take any of their resolutions seriously? When the likes of Libya and Syria rule the roost and you take their words as gospel than that tells me all I need to know about you. Libya and human rights in the same sentence makes most thinking beings laugh out loud, but evidently not you.

Islamic Awakening Forum on Fort Hood shooter: “What a brave mujahid”
Misunderstanders of Islam abound on this thread at Islamic Awakening, discussing the jihad shooting at Fort Hood today.

mujahid_moonsighter Junior Member Muslim Male Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Riyadh, Saudia Arabia
Re: As many as 9 killed in Fort Hood shootings, officials say
reports now are saying that the shooter was a convert(revert) to Islam, a Major(officer) in the army

Allahu akbar insha Allah he be shaheed, what a brave mujahid

This is a contradictory position considering the prominence of the AIPAC lobby in Congress, not to mention recent U.S. actions regarding Israel. As far as I know they are still receiving $3 billion and they are a major purchaser of U.S. defense contracts. If I also recall correctly they are one of the few members of the United Nations to vote against bringing the Goldstone report further. And, additionally, Obama’s Administration called for a “settlement freeze” in the West Bank but recently stopped pushing for that.

You can debate whether or not Israel is justified or that America is justified in supplying Israel arms. But it is indisputable that the U.S. government unequivocally supplies Israel and that without the former, Israel would probably not last that long… I don’t know of many countries that can start 2 wars in 3 years and get away with it. That said, I really wish that the debate would stop being about “well you’re being brainwashed and I know what I am talking about” or being incredulous towards the other persons point of view. Honestly the discussion should center around the actual content and data.

And one last thing in this little tirade-how exactly is this article biased? And remember bias doesn’t mean disagreeing with you, it means the author takes a clear slant towards one side by excluding certain facts. I won’t argue this is a masterpiece of journalism but she quoted both sides of the debate..

He exclaimed that “THEY (PALESTINIANS) HATE THEIR OWN CHILDREN! THEY STRAP BOMBS TO THEM AND TELL THEM TO KILL THEMSELVES!”

No, he was NOT referring only to “Islamofascists” here. He did not make a single distinction in the context of this quote between the general Palestinian population and the “Islamofascists” to whom he often refers.

He also stated that Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza should move to Jordan to make way for Israelis in the Palestinian territories. Therefore, even though he stated beforehand that it was genocidal for Arabs to oppose the existence of Israel, he stated that he opposed the existence of Palestinians in Palestine? According to his logic, he is supporting genocidal perspectives as well!

LASSSSTLY, I talked to him afterward and he admitted that he had never even been to Israel!!! Therefore, he sure as heck hasn’t been to Palestine!! How DARE he generalize the perspectives and desires of Palestinian civilians when he has never even been to Palestine and interacted with them??? He has never even witnessed the events that he so fervently decries.

This man is a moron. That speech was such a waste of my time.

Here’s another, “is my last name a security threat?” get over your “rights” and respect other opinions.

When you have some twisted and negative view of a republican, you might want to check your facts. FACT: the most conservative cities in the U.S. DONATE (give money or goods for a good cause, just in case you need the definition) the most. Democratic cities-none.

Stop trying to use propaganda and your stupid mind to justify why Republicans don’t spend their time feeding the homeless. Your useless, just like them.

but since you took the time to clarify things for me i’d like to say that those people still aren’t brain-dead or malicious…some of them were even Jewish