IFC statement says e-mail did not originate at USC
Posted March 10, 2011 at 8:38 pm in News
USC’s Interfraternity Council released a statement Thursday to clear up rumors that have been circulating about the viral e-mail that was linked to USC’s Kappa Sigma Fraternity.
In the statement, IFC and the Panhellenic Council condemn the “racism, sexism, and other bigoted content of the e-mail,” and provide several updates on the investigation into the e-mail’s origins.
The e-mail, the statement says, did not originate at USC. According to IFC, the e-mail was forwarded to USC’s Kappa Sigma chapter by someone who “is not a registered member of the USC greek community.”
IFC and PHC will be taking a stand against the offensive language and concepts that were in the e-mail, according to the statement.
The two organizations have created a Gentleman’s Pledge for every fraternity member at USC, and it was signed by all of the fraternity presidents. The Pledge emphasizes proper conduct and respect toward all women and individuals.
The two councils will also work with the Women’s Student Assembly and the Center for Women and Men to fight sexual violence.
IFC and PHC plan to further review the priorities on The Row.
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It seems that an independent investigative body is needed to resolve this situation. It is clear SC and the IFC are hiding or altering facts to their own benefit.
Let’s Break Down the Apparent Mis-truths for the IFC Press Release:
1) The emailer is not a registered member of the fraternity? Why? Did he not pay dues or attend meetings? Why did he have a position in the house such as social chair? Why was he able to send out mass emails to all the members? Why did he need to quit or get kicked out of organization he was not a member of? Was his unregistered status a simple oversight on the part of the fraternity not submitting his name to Greek life as he was a transfer from another school or a larger conspiracy to protect their house grades or some other unknown reason? How many other “unregistered members” does Kappa Sig have and why?
2) The email originated outside of USC? Harvard has been mentioned by many as the source of the email. Why Harvard? Do they have an original email or text that indicates it was written at Harvard (JoeMisog@harvard.edu?) . If so, why hasn’t this story not moved to Harvard and that student been confronted with the this email? Why does our email mention “Brothers of Kappa Sig” when there is no current Kappa Sig Chapter at Harvard? Did our local boy alter the email and resend it? By altering the email and reshaping it for his own Chapter, did he not take ownership of it?
3) Why did the IFC hastily prepare a press release on this matter? Why did they state the matter had been fully investigated and resolved when the time frame of their investigation was only a day perhaps two? Does this seem like a thorough investigation? Why did they not release any evidence such as the original “Harvard email”. On what basis is IFC an investigative body of apparent misdeeds in the Greek System and if so, does this investigation follow the same procedures and timeline of earlier investigations? When does IFC convene investigative bodies and who are the members of such a team where do they meet and what powers of investigation do they have? Are there previous press releases such as the current one with similar wording and findings?
If anyone can answer these three questions, I will be satisfied that nothing wrong went on.
sorry, *humor.
There are still few substantial answers available, but one enraged USC student has gone to Jezebel with her version of events. According to the anonymous student, the email was originally written in January. Its author supposedly meant for it to be taken quite seriously and actually did receive gullet reports from his frat brothers. The student expressed her anger at the author, the Daily Trojan, and university officials for the handling of the events in three main points.
1. the email is real, NOT SATIRE/A JOKE, and 100% originated from USC’s Kappa Sig. I even heard the author actually received “gullet reports.”
2. The author has been expelled from the frat – but only now that this has come to light. The original email was sent in January.
3. IFC, Kappa Sig, and the Daily Trojan are obfuscating the facts to try and put the blame outside USC and save the image of the Greek system/the university.
Someone at the Trojan should investigate this IFC claim that the email did not originate at USC. At other schools the frat houses are privately owned. LA County recorder website should tell you who owns the actual property for KS, which might allow you to puncture the IFC claim.
Great idea. Or maybe we could get Chloe at CTU to open up a socket into IFC’s mainframe.
Top Shelf Humor Tony!
If I were you gals at USC I would boycott parties at this frat house, like, forever.
Gals across the country, show some pride and never darken the doorstep of these lame, insecure, misogynistic frat boys again.
+1
I agree with this wholeheartedly. In order to truly change the misogynistic mentality at a basic level, girls need to stop going to these parties, so that the fraternity guys stop dehumanizing girls in this way.
So now women are responsible for changing men’s misogynistic attitudes and beliefs?
Women not going to frat parties doesn’t mean boys (they don’t deserve to be called “men”) will suddenly stop dehumanizing, objectifying, and degrading women. They can objectify and degrade women all they want, whenever they want. That is not limited to the confines of a fraternity party. I see and hear it all the time. It is a pervasive culture. The only way it will change is for men to stand up and stop bowing to the expectations of a misogynistic society.
Yes women will play a role in this culture changing–but it is by no means THEIR responsibility to change it. Women didn’t create patriarchy or misogyny. And they are not solely responsible for dismantling these structures either.
They SAY the e-mail originated outside USC, which bolsters my theory that it actually began it’s little electronic life in Kenya. Of course the (school) administration will deny this all day, but why won’t they just release the long-form IP certificate and prove, once and for all, where this e-hussein-mail is from? I’M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS!
Now THAT is satire.
The origin of the email becomes somewhat less relevant when you realize that men at USC sent it to their buddies because they thought it was “funny”. I have read the full text and the author (USC student or not) crosses all kinds of lines: the line between “funny” and “racist”, the line between “funny” and “misogynist”, the line between “funny” and “dehumanizing”…
You get the idea. I consider myself the proprietor of a somewhat twisted sense of humor, and I don’t self-identify as a feminist. This email is unsettling because of its content, sure. But it’s just as unsettling to be on the treadmill at the Lyon Center, wondering if the guy next to you read the email, laughed, and sent it to his friends.
Well said.
Seriously! Making the presidents of the fraternities — what? 15 guys? — sign a pledge isn’t going to change or really address anything at all. They’ll sign it, have a laugh about it at Monday dinners and move onto something worse.
Exactly…and if you had half a brain, you’d do the same thing. Laugh about it and move onto to something else.
Simca…the answer to your last question is ‘yes’ and if I were you, I’d turn up the speed on that treadmill a notch or two
News travels fast. Wondering about how this will play out.
If it isn’t a student, it’s the coach.
My bad.
It would be great for people to hold one another accountable, and hold ourselves accountable. We may, in time, be able to focus on how to do things and say things the right way.
Wouldn’t it be great if you did not have to cover things up, but identify and correct quickly problems? If, for example, there was a circulated email, and those around the individual confronted and addressed the person/problem, it would not be the mess it is now.
The same goes for many other issues. We just need to hold one another more accountable. And address issues quickly.
This is IFC not USC, dumb***
This email was written by someone at Harvard. This was the irrefutable evidence that exonerated that guy from KSig. USC would not dare to falsify information. You honestly believe they would lie to the entire student body? Why would they? They have a lot more to lose, than a single individual. I think everyone owes Kappa Sigma and the alleged author an apology.
The actual source of the email is irrelevant compared to the general reaction of the trojan student body. I’m ashamed and appalled that anyone would find this filth funny, dismiss it as a “joke,” or tell others to “lighten up” about it.
That said, it would not surprise me in the least if this came from someone associated with the greek system here. I’ve heard the same BS since I started attending, I’m just surprised it didn’t come out sooner.
lol, could Know The Facts be a USC PR person?
I’m thinking right about now would be a good time to protest. Get this idiot kicked out of our school – let them know we’re not going to associate our brand with this classless moron.
Give me a break…that email is funny, I don’t care who you say you are. The only ones complaining clearly don’t understand how guys interact with one another (which means you probably have a small group of insecure friends who have nothing better to do than complain about someone else’s behavior…get a life). And for the folks who called out the so-called writer of the email in this public forum, especially now that he’s been cleared even though you refuse to believe it because then you’d have to admit to yourselves that you were wrong from the beginning, which we all know will never happen. Well, if I were him, I’d be talking to attorney’s figuring out how to sue for slander/etc. Watch out…the tides have turned
Dude, the guy wrote an email…that’s it. He didn’t hurt anyone, he didn’t actually rape anyone…he didn’t do anything other than make his friends laugh. It was meant to be comedy, nothing more, which clearly you’ve never heard, seen, or watched. Or understood for that matter. Get a life you loser because all this fake outrage over something that has nothing to do with you can only mean a couple of things…you either have no friends (if you did, you’d laugh at the email for what it is) or you secretly desire to be on the inside of the Greek system but are stuck looking on from afar and are jealous that others are having more fun in life than you.
What are you, 15? Did a high school girl write this? What an inane individual you are.
That’s a pretty misogynistic comment, George.
Here comes the indignant response….
Georgieboy, please no more from a pseudo intellectual like yourself. The jokes on you and you don’t even realize it.
Wow! No he didn’t actually rape anyone but he did encourage exactly the kind of misogynistic attitude that encourages and excuses rape. Not least with his “there’s a fine line between non-consent and rape, don’t cross it” comment. No there isn’t, non consensual sex is rape. End of story!
Disregard that, I have never once laughed at an over the top movie (such as Borat) and so have no sense of humour whatsoever. The only reason why I’m angry at this is because I’m perpetually living in the 60s (I am probably an indie chick) and looking for any cause to support and rally behind that vilifies men.
are they claiming the email did not “originate” at USC because it was composed off campus in the frat house? disgusting.
Disappointing that USC decided to dismiss it so quickly. I agree that it makes USC look bad.
People here KNOW who wrote it.
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuulshit.
THIS IS A LIE! We all know exactly who it was. HE GOES TO USC. HE WAS IN KAPPA SIGMA. This is making USC look 100 times worse. DISGUSTING.
Well now, here I thought everyone was going to wait until the national members figured this out. I realize there’s innocent before guilty, but this is ridiculous. The bright side is we might not make the news again. The dark side is we’re right back where we started with nothing done. Way to support your own, IFC. *rolls eyes
Facts:
1) Not written by a USC student
2) Not emailed by a registered member of Kappa Sig
3) No one acted on the “Joke” email
Time to apologize Georgie!
Okay, I’m sorry for jumping to a conclusion about Kappa Sig without knowing all the facts. Assuming the facts are the facts.
By the way, Frat bro, what “evidence” do you have? Did you trace the email back through the IP address chain yourself? Do you even know what that its? Or did you just read this article and assume fact? I feel like you should be ousted from our university just out of stupidity.
You can’t take back your apology
You have the mind of a 4 year old, and that’s pushing it.
Sorry about that, my second personality kicked in to insult you. I completely apologize for all the criticism I’ve been spewing lately. I have a slight personality disorder :/
Quite a “thorough” investigation, I’m sure.
One Word, “Whitewash”!
Sorry people but this story is over. USC and IFC have done a complete investigation and everything is fine.
I can assure you I’m not the other 1 or 2 people who commented, and I’m sorry for the genuine people who don’t know they’re being duped, but I KNOW the guy who wrote the e-mail and he goes to USC. This coverup is insane.
If there’s a coverup, it’s simply their way of telling all you idiots that everyone found that email funny (because they have a brain and realize it was some guys trying to be funny within their frat, nothing more, and while they of course couldn’t say that publicly, they want this to go away because even they realize how ridiculous this whole thing has gotten. (Kick him off campus and their whole frat, and while you’re at it, just kick every frat off campus, and on and on) Wake up, that’s how all guys talk to each other whether they’re in a frat or not so assuming you already know this, then you clearly have a vendetta against the Greek life in general. I’m therefore assuming you wanted to be in that life but clearly no one would have you…why else are you targeting just frat guys? Bottom line, stop overreacting and go enjoy your own life and stop worrying what other groups of friends are doing.
If there’s a cover up its actually their way of avoiding accountability since it would be incredibly embarrassing for them. There is a difference between being un-PC and being dehumanizing. One is simply offensive to some while the other is actively dangerous. Regardless of the seriousness of the intent the e-mail crossed the line from joke into what could easily be argued is hate speech when it hit such a dehumanizing level. Women are not people, they are targets and there is a difference between non-consent and rape are two very dangerous and inflammatory statements to make given that 1 in 4 women will be sexually assaulted and 1 in 6 will be raped. Also there is no difference between non-consent and rape, non-consensual sex is simply a euphemism for rape. Furthermore, to say that all guys talk like that is disingenuous. Perhaps all the ones you hang out with do, but I don’t and most other guys I know don’t, at least not to that extreme. And many of us resent being tossed in with that crowd. Full disclosure: my brother, who is a great guy, is a Kappa Sigma (though not at USC). I have nothing against the organization as a whole and his house seems to be a pretty pulled together group of reasonably decent guys. I would rather see them just fess up and move on. Trying to justify it or sweep it under the rug will only make the controversy drag out longer and undermine public trust in both the fraternity and the Greek system as a whole.
Bella YOU are a racist, shame on you judging others. So, with your pea brain you assume that white men lie. Frankly, someone should track down who you are and protest your racist remarks that attempt to castigate and condemn all white men. And the other fools that are passing judgment on here, how about an apology to these guys instead of rushing to judgment. So Kevin, JJ, and Anthony, (AKA the same person) you are all disgusting to accuse people of lying with no proof. Shame on all of you!
Don’t like to be a downer, but who are they kidding? Most frat boys won’t follow the Gentleman’s Pledge
This is terrible. They need to own up to it. Lying about it isn’t going to make people forget or make frats look better.
We all know the email DID originate at USC…who are they trying to fool?
More lies from white men!