George Zimmerman video shows persistent racism
Last Monday, George Zimmerman, the infamous neighborhood watchman accused of and later acquitted for the murder of Trayvon Martin, posted a video of what appears to be an attempt at public exoneration of himself. Zimmerman reflected upon the night of Trayvon’s death, saying, “I believe God does everything for a purpose. Only in a true life-or-death scenario can you have mental clearness to know that you cannot feel guilty for surviving.”
This excerpt is just one section of the 14-minute video, and yet it perfectly captures the kind of systemic racial problems that pervade the country. First, it is doubtful that Zimmerman operates on any clearness, given he refers to an event in which he murdered an unarmed teenager as a “life-or-death” experience. If that kind of victim-based rhetoric is used, it should be to discuss Martin’s own inability to survive after he was shot by Zimmerman’s 9 mm semiautomatic gun. Second, the fact that Zimmerman explicitly states that he feels no remorse for killing a child is alarming — no matter the circumstances.
Far more revealing, however, is Zimmerman’s reply when asked if he had evolved from the man he was five years ago: “Absolutely not. I’ve had to have my guard up significantly. I have to look over my shoulder on a daily basis, several times a day.” This answer represents a myopic worldview prevalent among far too many Americans. In this racially driven case, Zimmerman sees himself as the victim, failing to understand his own contribution to a racist system and the racial privilege from which it stems. When he complains about his own anxiety and fear of unwarranted aggression, Zimmerman does not consider that the same feeling bears a heavy burden on the lives of millions of people as they take careful precautions with law enforcement.
Whether he wants to admit it or not, Zimmerman’s statement comes from a place of privilege. In 2015, minorities make distinctly different calculations than their white counterparts when dealing with law enforcement. While racial minorities are forced to consider inherent racial bias and assumptions of criminality, whites don’t even encounter these challenges on an everyday basis. Young black men are taught how to behave, what to wear and what to say so as not appear too suspicious — a lesson that doesn’t seem to even enter the white consciousness. Study after study has substantiated these claims and concerns, like in Arizona, where the state highway patrol was 3.5 times more likely to search a stopped Native American than a white person and 2.5 times more likely to search a stopped African-American or Hispanic. When George Zimmerman bemoans his new challenging lifestyle, he exhibits a complete ignorance of a struggle that plagues millions of others, not because they murdered a teenager, but because of the color of their skin. It isn’t just George Zimmerman. Rather, he is the product of a system in denial.
According to the Pew Research Center, 49 percent of whites were satisfied with the Zimmerman verdict and 21 percent didn’t have an opinion, while only 5 percent of African-Americans reported feeling satisfied and 9 percent didn’t have an opinion. If this doesn’t indicate a division within the American experience, these numbers should: 60 percent of whites responded to the survey by saying that the racial component of the case received more attention than it deserved, while only 13 percent of blacks felt the same way. This polling alludes to the dangerous belief in a post-racial America that race no longer needs to be discussed.
George Zimmerman’s comments need to begin a dialogue surrounding our consciousness of racial divisions. People are all subject to subliminal prejudices embedded in society and entrenched in our everyday experiences. It’s time to acknowledge it. Looking at cases like Trayvon Martin and saying “Well, that’s them, and not me” isn’t working. Zimmerman’s attempt to distance himself from his own actions also isn’t working. He only presents further proof that there’s a fundamental disconnect between the United States’ racial narratives — one only further buttressed by a denial of racial privilege.
Zimmerman, The guy who was in such fear of Trayvon..” He’s coming toward me..he’s got his hand in his waistband”..”I don’t know where this kid is” that he doesn’t think keeping a 911 dispatcher on the phone till the cops get there is necessary. In fact near the end of the call he seems quite eager to end that call..
Non emergency dispatcher, and everyone in the past that has run toward the rear entrance continues out and is never seen again. The assumption by both Zimmerman and dispatch is that this person has done the same and there may be little point in having the police come out, but Zimmerman agrees to wait for them and fill out a report etc. The neighborhood has a burglary problem, not an angry teen beats up people problem, so Martin’s actions were completely unexpected.
I think you miss my point. Zimmerman was in fear of his life. Or at least tried to give that impression Why would he want to end a call with the police if he was in fear of his life?
The whole Z family has become a pack of whining grifters looking for attention and cash support. Despicable racists.
what a bunch of crap. Defending one life against a violent aggressor is a right all share in every state. You probably are so ignorant that you don’t know that CA SYG law is more liberal than Florida, not the SYG was actually relevant, it wasn’t. Just another media LIE.
The only racists are the Martin, Fulton and their shyster attorneys who constructed the “great white defendant” to execute their shake down. I doubt current USC students have a clue as to the literary reference I used. hint read Tom Wolfe.
Ask yourself WHY did grifter Sybrina NOT sue Z in a civil case. Answer- ping logs and text messages from Trayvon phone come into court along with his history as of burglaries.
The ONLY racial privilege associated with this case benefits the Martin family. The media protected them from being exposed as the LIARS they are.
What a twisted essay built on nonsense.
You show me a Black man calculating how to deal with law enforcement, and I’ll show you a gangbanger.
Thanks to the Gunshine State of Florida, George’s parents and 6 jurors — this remorseless sociopath is free.
Place Zimmerman’s minor injuries on any other person, and his supporters would be writing “sick, whining crybaby”.
You sound like you don’t have a clue to the nature of his injuries, but that is beside the point, Martin wasn’t shot for beating Zimmerman, he was shot when he reached for his gun to kill him.
Zimmerman was a stupid hothead who tried to be policeman. He had no business shadowing that nasty young tough. The tough was beating Zimmerman’s head on the sidewalk, and Zimmerman, like an idiot, drew his pistol and shot him.Fine, we know that. So who cares what Zimmerman says today? For better or worse, his trial is over. This article reads like a junior high column, though. “no remorse for killing a child.” A child? Seventeen, 5′ 11″, and already a junior thug. “Dialog?” “Narratives?” What we need is not more chatter, but less stupid hotheads like Zimmerman.
Martin beat Zimmerman for a minute with no harm to himself of any kind while Zimmerman screamed for help and tried to get away. Martin was not shot because of this beating, not judged or punished for the beating. Martin was shot because when he saw Zimmerman was armed he didn’t stop his attack. No different from both of them spotting a rock, the first one to get it is the one who lives. The main difference between the situations Martin and Zimmerman faced is that all Martin needed to do was stop his attack and no harm would have come to him. Zimmerman was looking at death if Martin gained control of the gun.
The case was never about race, half the residents of the complex were dark skinned minorities like Zimmerman and Martin.
Your comment doesn’t make sense. The part about why Martin was shot anyways.
Zimmerman did no harm to Martin of any kind until Martin saw his gun and reached for it saying you are going to die tonight. Zimmerman got to the gun first, so he lived instead of died.
Zimmerman gospel.
Forensic facts.
Your comment is an hysterical, bloated lie.
What, you mean the hard facts I have related don’t agree with the story the Martin’s lawyer made up with publicist Ryan Julison and sold to media? You do understand though that when they made up the story they didn’t have any real access to what happened or who Zimmerman was, just some fragments from a illegally leaked police report?
Sad in funny way you still believe any of the lies they told and the media passed on, but genuinely pathetic that you still believe all of it.
Zimmerman isn’t white, only his last name.
Zimmerman isn’t a racist, he is a life long advocate for racial justice active in his community.
Zimmerman never approached Martin, Martin ran away and came back 80 yards from hiding sneaking up behind Zimmerman.
Are you sure?
Because it was written on Zimmerman’s Hispanic skinhead face that he was the good guy ? One moment you are minding your own business walking home. You realize that you are being followed by car. You try to get away. You realize that the creep starts running after you. Adrenaline is pumping. You get in a fight. Suddenly you realize that the creep is armed. Is the creep less dangerous now that he has a gun? You let him draw it? If all you have to do when you get in a fight is to stop fighting to walk away unharmed, why do people carry guns?
You left out reality, Not walking home, standing looking around in the rain for half a hour talking on his cell just inside a side path into the complex..
Trayvon does not TRY to get away, he easily runs out of Zimmerman’s sight in seconds. Runs 80 yards from the area Zimmerman stops at, then four minutes later sneaks back and beats Zimmerman.
No fight, just one person pounding the other with no harm of any kind done to Trayvon, while his victim tries to get away and screams for help.
Creep? Why not use the actual term Trayvon used, “Creepy, as s cracker”, urban slang for gay molester.
When you see the person you have attacked and beaten, that has done no harm to you is armed, the sane thing to do is STOP the attack, not make it a life and death struggle. Regardless its clear self defense for Zimmerman to shoot his attacker to prevent him from getting to his gun and killing him.
Once a threat ends, so does the lawful use of force. Zimmerman would not have shot Trayvon if he stopped the attack. An unlawful person, say an angry teen kicked out of his mother house and put on a bus to strange town that is beating a stranger for looking gay, the opposite is true. Zimmerman would be dead, Trayvon would have the 9mm he was hoping to get, and be back in Miami the next morning bragging to his friends.
How did GZ know that TM was on his cell for half an hour? Are you saying that Zimmerman followed his suspect for the duration of the phone call ? How else can he know when the phone call started? Have you ever been followed by a stranger during half an hour ? Creepy or not? Or only creepy if the person following has a darker complexion than the person being followed?
What’s the most suspicious behavior.
– a white teenager on a phone in the rain between 6:54 and 7:12. (phone records)
– a black male following and observing a white male on the phone in the rain for half an hour?
– a black teenager as TM sitting in a car in the middle of the night observing the back of a gun shop (as GZ in july 2014)?
GZ was at a 10 seconds running distance when asked by the dispatcher if he was following him. He got in a fight 4 minutes later at the top of the T walking back after having continued to search for his suspect all the way to Retreat View. Nobody knows where TM was all that time. For all we know he can have been hiding all the time close to the top of the T ,without knowing where his pursuer was.
Tell me what ‘s the sane thing to do, if you have been looking for someone down a dark alley with a flashlight and if that person confronts you and asks you why you are following him.
– identify as a concerned neighborhood watch captain
– remain silent and reach into your pocket or waistband for an unidentified object.
GZ decided to get into his pockets and got hit before he could draw Try following a cop and reach into your waistband when he confronts you instead of reassuring him that you have no bad intentions..
Zimmerman only knows Martin in standing in the rain looking around and that he is not a resident. We know Martin was standing there for half an hour due to the rest of the evidence, time he left 7/11 and Rachel Jeantel’s testimony and the phone logs.
Zimmerman and Martin have essentially the same complexion.
Martin is reported to police because he meets the police standard for being reported, not recognized as a resident and not going about his business, acting suspicious. Martin is using a headset, so Zimmerman has no way of knowing this is why he is looking around acting strange.
Jeantel testified Martin was near his daddy’s house, Brandy Green’s condo. Independently Zimmerman tells the dispatcher on the recording that Martin has disappeared from his sight toward the rear entrance. Look at an aerial view of the complex, there isn’t a place to be out of sight within 60 feet of where Zimmerman stopped. Martin went south, Zimmerman walked east to the street to get an address to direct the police to, as the same street name circled the whole complex making it useless without an address.
Strawman, Martin confronts Zimmerman from behind about five feet away saying “Do you have a problem?” and continuing to approach. Zimmerman says “No” and digs for his cell phone, then while his guard is down Martin punches him in the face as hard as he can, breaking his nose and knocking him to the ground, Martin sits on him continuing the beating. There is NO indication that Martin thinks Zimmerman has a weapon, as there would be if you believe that started the attack. Martin’s attack is focused on silencing his screaming victim, with no struggle for a weapon until a minute later when the jacket rides up.
You need to look at a photo of the complex, its wide open between the rows of condos, whoever is approaching the other person will see them from a good 30 yards away. Martin could have asked his question regardless of what it was from 20 yards away. The only reason to sneak up so close behind Zimmerman is as a prelude to an attack.
Screaming for help for a minute didn’t stop Martin’s beating, saying he was neighborhood watch might have made it worse. Martin’s last fight at school was with someone who snitched on him according to his cell phone messages.
If Zimmerman didn’t know how long TM had been there in the rain, then the duration of the phone call is irrelevant to what happened, unless you think that TM brought this upon him by taking the risk that somebody might see him hanging around in the rain, without realizing that he was on a cell talking to a girl.
Same complexion? Next you’ll tell that Salma Hayek can one day be cast as Michelle Obama.
Ban headsets.Or phone while sitting in a car as Zimmerman.
Any place in the alley is “near his daddy’s house” after covering 90% of the 0.7 mile walk from the 7 11 store. The girl has no way of knowing what “near” means.
If Walter Scott had been filmed digging in his pockets, while being tazered unsuccessfully or even while running away police officer Michael Slager would have had a better defense. Without video footage you would have believed that the tazer fell where the body was located.
Night was falling. Zimmerman pretends that fear paralyzed him when he didn’t manage his flashlight to work while on Retreat View Circle. If he could see 30 yards why did he need a working flashlight to get back to his car?
Zimmerman said that Martin came out of the bushes. No bushes there but screens at the back of the houses. For all is known the scenario where TM hid just south of the top of the T, knowing that the man in the truck ran after him, and got up once Zimmerman closed up on his hiding place armed with his flashlight is just as plausible as the one where he made it all the way home and came back..
GZ didn’t know anything about TM. After having been arrested for assault on a police officer in plain clothes GZ should have been prepared to identify.
The story Crump and Julison made up, and most of the media carried was that Martin was walking home, a situation where nobody would have paid any attention to him, but a total lie based on the evidence and testimony. It is relevant to discarding the whole of the Crump story as the fiction it is.
What is relevant to Zimmerman is that Martin was not recognized as a resident, which he was not, and he was not going about his business. Those are the criteria of Sanford PD and most others for reporting someone as suspicious.
Without a flash or photoshop, Martin and Zimmerman are close enough in skin tone and neither of them would ever be mistaken for white. Zimmerman’s African ancestry isn’t as visible, but that doesn’t change the facts of his racial heritage.
Anyplace in the “alley” would still be in sight of someone at the T. Jeantel doesn’t guess the location, she testifies that Trayvon says he is at his Daddy’s house, but decides not to go in.
I don’t comment on cases with partial information, and too little is known so far in the Scott case to say other than it shares little to nothing with the Martin case.
Zimmerman tried to get his flashlight working while looking for a street address to pass on to the police, but nothing suggests he thinks Martin has not run out the rear entrance, or that he is being any more than cautious in giving out his home address. Listen to the dispatch recording, its calm once Martin runs out of his sight.
Once again, educate yourself, many images of the complex are online, including the walk thru Zimmerman gives the police the next day, there isn’t anyplace in the central area to hide except the passage between segments of the two rows of condo’s a good 80 feet away from the crime scene. Far from plausible, its ridiculous as well as contradicted by Jeantel’s testimony. Jeantel specifically says Trayvon sees Zimmerman, and goes to confront him.
If Zimmerman walked south, the direction Martin ran in, he would be easily vivible at a great distance to anyone looking north. Zimmerman walking west towards his truck would place Martin behind him, out of sight and unknown until he chose to speak.
GZ pushed a cop that grabbed his friend without identifying himself as cop. No injury of any kind, but he was still arrested. Later events supported the cop not identifying himself.
Martin got his last suspension for fighting with, in Martin’s words on his cell, someone who snitched on him. Other than gay bashing, beating up Zimmerman for calling police is the second most likely situation, so telling Martin he is neighborhood watch is not likely to stop a beating where screaming for help doesn’t work.
1. TM was walking home minding his own business, phoning.
2. GZ can report him as suspicious
3. but when GZ gets out of his car to follow TM he is himself acting suspiciously to a teenager who was minding his own business. What could have been relevant to TM and led him into thinking that GZ was not a concerned citizen, is that the shaved head in the car did not roll down the window to identify himself as such. If he had known about neighborhood watch rules the sole fact that GZ came after him, could have make him think that he was not a watch. Didn’t Jeantel warn TM that it could be a ‘rapist’ ? Their anxiety seems genuine.
4. Are you saying that GZ’s brother, Robert with the same Afro Peruvian heritage can not ever be mistaken for white? He just dresses up better and seems better educated than his brother George. Fact is that the Zimmerman brothers can not ever be mistaken for Afro American. The fact of their racial heritage is irrelevant. Hitler might have had a Jewish grand father and was apparently aware of it. Is that proof that he can not have had a grudge against Jews?
Jeantel said that he was “right by his daddy’s house”. and that might not even have been TM’s exact words. That can be anywhere in the alley leading directly to the house.
I watched the reenactment video. You could hide a small horse behind the white screens. Suppose he was hiding behind one of those screens close to the T. Suppose he sees GZ checking the top of the T with his flashlight walking E-W. Suppose he makes the bad decision to get out of hiding and to walk up to him to ask him why he is following him. What’s wrong with that? And then GZ decides to get into his pockets and this adrenaline fueled situation gets out of hand.
I am not judging GZ for the assault of a po incident. Just saying that after that incident he should have known better than to follow a teenager without being prepared to identify. GZ was carrying a gun. He knew that he had to avoid getting into a fight.
Guess we’ll never know if identifying would have calmed things down. It’s just the normal thing to do. GZ didn’ know anything about TM’s school suspensions for fighting.
Sorry but that is a lie, Martin is NOT walking home. He isn’t walking anywhere, he is standing in the same area looking around while passing the time on the phone to various people.
Its a gated community, anyone in a car came through a gate and is likely a resident. Martin is not a resident, nothing in evidence suggests he was even an invited guest. Sabrina put him on a bus to Sanford, but Brandy Green and Tracey Martin were out of town, with just 14 year old Chad Green at the condo. Its possible Brandy Green was “ok” with Trayvon doing drugs in the condo alone with Chad, its also possible he was not a welcome guest.
Your attempt to profile Zimmerman as a skinhead falls far short of credibility, his hair was short, but not as short as was depicted in the old mug shot the media used. Regardless your profiling based on appearance is disgusting.
Robert Zimmerman looks more like his father than his mothers side of the family, which has nothing to with how George looks, which is clearly on his mothers side, Afro Peruvian.
Zimmerman is watching Martin run south, hiding in a screened area would have been visiable, stopping short of Brandy Green’s condo would make no sense. Regardless the distance was substantial and sufficient to discard the notion that Zimmerman approaches him.
Martin can ask questions from 30 feet away, sneaking up behind Zimmerman until he was close enough to strike is what he actually did. Martin punched him in the nose as his first act, then with Zimmerman helpless and bleeding on the ground and ZERO threat to Martin, Martin sat on him holding him down and beat him for a minute while Zimmerman did nothing but scream for help and try to get away.
Think about what you said, “GZ was carrying a gun. He knew that he had to avoid getting into a fight.” This is a big reason why Zimmerman would NEVER approach a stranger close enough to be attacked. Would never willingly engage in a physical struggle.
No identifying is NOT the normal thing to do, staying away and watching from a distance is the normal thing to do. Neighborhood Watch has no authority, no identification as NW, and the complex has a NW sign at every entrance.
You pick the reason Martin gives Zimmerman a beating; reporting him to police, or looking gay and watching him. None of the other suggested reasons hold up, Martin certainly was not afraid of the smaller defenseless looking man.
Doesn’t matter if he walks or halts while phoning. He’s minding his own business. Talking to various people or to Rachel?
“Yet by that winter night, he’d been there for seven days, (…) His father Tracy had taken his son four hours away from home (…)” (source CNN may 23, 2012)
I went through 6 mugshots. Don’t know where he has less hair than on the one where he is ‘bleeding’.
Zimmerman didn’t watch Martin run south. He stopped running 10 seconds after getting out of his car, then continued walking east. At that moment he’s not at the top of the T. Martin on the other hand doesn’t know that GZ stopped running, so he can expect his pursuer to arrive at the top of the T before he can make it home unseen. That’s a good reason to decide to hide, if the alternative is leading he creepy acting character to your front door.
TM punched a shaved head pursuer who reached into his pockets for an unidentified object instead of trying to defuse the situation by explaining why he was following him. Next time you get pulled over, why don’t you try to reach in your pockets while a police officer expects you to identify yourself.
Zero threat? When you get into a fistfight with a possibly armed individual, that individual represents zero threat? You sure have lots of certainties about what’s going on in the minds of
GZ and TM. In one of your previous posts you wrote “Once a threat ends,
so does the lawful use of force. Zimmerman would not have shot Trayvon
if he stopped the attack.” Do you expect a random citizen, possibly a criminal, to have higher self control or highr morals than the police officer who shot Walter Scott in the back running away from him?
To avoid getting in a fight he should have stayed out of that alley. Didn’t the kid come to check him out already while he was still sitting in his car? Wasn’t that enough? What about the once bitten twice shy ?
Staying away. That’s exactly what the dispatcher asked him to do. But GZ knew better…Of course NW do not have authority. They are not supposed to follow or confront, they are supposed to watch. When TM ran and probably heard the man in the car coming after him, was he thinking I’m being watched or I’m being chased after?
Wrong, regardless of which hate source you got your made up information, it does not match the facts.
Martin is minding his own business, whether that business is innocent we will never know, and it does not matter, it is what his behavior looks like to a reasonable person with the same information that Zimmerman has; standing in the rain looking around, not walking anyplace, and not recognized as a resident.
CNN isn’t the source, they are just repeating what Crump and Julison pass on, Martin was put on a bus and sent to Sanford. Yet that winter night dozens of residents in the area near Brandy Green’s were questioned by police and NOBODY mentioned a teen visitor from Miami.
Why do you use the racial slur “skinhead”? It has no meaning in reference to a Latino.
Zimmerman ran east for about 12 seconds and stopped in the area of the T, with a full view between the rows of condo’s to the street at the rear entrance. Martin will not be out of his sight and location unknown until he cuts through between a segment of the condo’s. Zimmerman doesn’t walk east to the next street for an address until the call to dispatch has ended about 90 seconds later, long after Martin is out of his sight. There is no reason to assume Martin has not run out the rear entrance, or to suspect he will come back and attack Zimmerman.
Jeantel makes no mention that Martin is aware that Zimmerman watched him run south, and indicates surprise when he sees Zimmerman most likely messing with his flashlight at the other end of the street.
Bully gay bashing vigilante Martin is not a cop, and has no business attacking anyone whether he thinks they are armed or not. You keep using the false term “pursuer” for Zimmerman who never approached Martin, its a lie.
Zero threat should be obvious, Martin knocked him down with one punch, easily ran away, and now Zimmerman is flat on his back bleeding from a broken nose, how much less of threat could someone be? How about after a minute of beating the person with no harm of any kind to yourself, is that past your threshold of no threat?
Its called not being stupid, if Zimmerman wanted to shoot Trayvon he could have done it from his truck at no risk to himself. If Martin stops the attack, does that hands up stuff and stops being a threat, then shooting him is murder and NOTHING suggests that Zimmerman meant him any harm of any kind. An intelligent view would be that 99.9% of the time Martin could have rolled off Zimmerman and ran away with nothing whatsoever happening to him.
Why is it at the time Zimmerman is watching Martin run south that you suggest Martin is too dangerous to watch? Martin has committed no crime, is it perhaps a racist view you have of Martin that Zimmerman does not share?
No the dispatcher did not suggest he stay away, he said we don’t need you to do that, in regards to following Martin at a distance to watch him. Also Zimmerman later said when the dispatch said that he realized it was a good idea and agreed with it.
Nothing suggests when Martin ran he was aware Zimmerman got out of his truck to watch where he was running to.
Zimmerman never approaches or confronts, and he stops trying to watch Martin. Four minutes later, non resident Martin comes back to resident Zimmerman and beats him, not because Martin is afraid, or Zimmerman poses him any threat, but the opposite, he thinks Zimmerman is gay and defenseless, a punching bag for Martin’s personal frustrations.
Serino believed Zimmerman’s observations were “faulty”. Also considering the time and day, the person he was on the phone with, and the fact Martin looked directly at Zimmerman and stared at him long enough for him to identify him it is highly unlikely he was casing houses. We also know now that Zimmerman’s wife left him the night before the incident which would have influenced his state of mind.
All in all, it appears the Sanford PD correctly recommended manslaughter charges.
Of course his ‘business’ is innocent, unless you think that he’s consulting with Rachel during 18 minutes, who’s masterminding it all from the moment he left home to buy candy.
Whether he is a skinhead or not, — and he is not — it does not matter, it’s how he looks like to a reasonable person who suddenly realizes that he is being followed.
“There is no reason to assume Martin has not run out the rear entrance, or to suspect he will come back and attack Zimmerman.” — That’s armchair quarterbacking. You know or you don’t know if he is gone and GZ obviously didn’t know, when he was talking to the dispatcher. He didn’t know it either when he was trying to make his flashlight work once on RVC.
(Following is by Sling Trebuchet, “Zimmermamn’s call”)
” Dispatcher: Okay do you live in the area?
Zimmerman: Yeah, I…[unintelligible]
Dispatcher: What’s your apartment number?
Zimmerman: It’s a home it’s [house number removed], (knocking sound) Oh crap I don’t want to give it all out, I don’t know where this kid is.
This last response is informative. (…) this central pathway area is very dark. In addition, a series of back porch separators offer good cover for anyone who wants to hide. Zimmerman isn’t assuming that Martin has continued to run. He is aware that he might be close by. The kid might be within earshot, and therefore become aware of where Zimmerman lived – posing the possibility of thuggish action being taken against his home in the future.”
You have an issue with “skinhead” and “pursuer”, while you routinely call TM “a bully gay bashing vigilante” ? GZ started running after TM down a dark alley. That’s called following, pursuing. He didn’t need to get to his own street for a street name. His truck was parked in Twin Trees and that’s where he was supposed to wait for the police. He decided to let them call him because he didn’t know where he would be. He wanted to keep all his options, including resume pursuit if he regained sight of Martin which he lost almost immediately after getting out of his car. He never knew if he went east or south at the top of the T so he checked out the WE section.
He called for a police officer because the kid was having his hand “in his waistband” when he came to check him out. So the teenager is possibly armed and dangerous when he’s sitting in his car and no longer down a dark alley?
GZ zero threat. I treated that.
You don’t know anything about what was going on in Zimmerman’s mind or in Trayvon matin’s for that matter. “He stopped trying to watch Martin.”, When? After saying OK to the dispatcher? Why did he need a working flashlight, why did he lose so much time trying to make it work on RVC if he was convinced that his suspect was no longer in the area? Even Stevie Wonder could have made it from RVC in a straight line to where his truck was.
Maybe in your reality that makes sense. But in this reality a person who just moments before ran from someone would not go back to confront that person. And even if you want to belive that happen (Which given the time frame would of been impossible) why wouldn’t Trayvon who was supposedly wanted to cause Zimmerman great bodily harm not come back with a weapon? Why would he go home and then come back with his phone and items he had just purchased at 7-11?
Reality also states that a person who got punched in the face as many times and had their skull bashed into concrete as George claims would not suffer minor injuries.
Facts are facts, Martin ran to the area near Brandy Green’s condo, Rachel Jeantel was clear about this in her testimony which matches Zimmerman’s voice on the dispatch recording saying Martin has disappeared from his sight to the south. Jeantel also testified that Martin saw Zimmerman and went back and confronted him.
Why would Martin want a weapon, he had zero fear of the smaller defenseless looking man he thought was gay. Martin went back to give him a beating with no expectation of any risk to himself, a whoopin, no reason to think he intended great bodily harm until Zimmerman started screaming for help.
Four minutes is more than sufficient time for Martin to reach Brandy Green’s condo and to come back, its about 80 yards, 160 yards total and easy walk in two to three minutes. Again, facts are facts, the crime scene is the area where Zimmerman was waiting for police, not where Martin ran to near Brandy Green’s condo.
The police on the scene and EMT saw his injuries as consistent with the nature of the attack, liars in the media claimed they were minor with no evidence to support the claim except intentionally distorted video.
When Jeantel said that Trayvon wen t back to confront she was talking about earlier that night when we heard Zimmerman say ” Now he’s coming toward me”.
Try to get your facts straight.
why wouldn’t Trayvon who was supposedly wanted to cause Zimmerman great bodily harm not come back with a weapon?
Because thugs and future felons are not that bright. Ever heard of the knockout game? You don’t need any thing else but your hands to kill someone. Reply if you think that’s not possible. How’s that reality for ya?
So really you have no logical explanation to my question. But instead just throw yet another unfounded accusation in order to sustain you’re unfounded beliefs
Well, how about this one. Martin was in a school fight not long before the TM GZ incident. I believe that is why he was suspended from school. He’s no stranger to fighting and wanted to build up his reputation by sucker punching and beating the hell out of a “creepy ass cracker”. That sounds pretty logical, don’t you think? I got more if you don’t like this one either.By the way, the correct verdict was given, good for you GZ, This story is old and stale. Darrell Davis, we’re just beating a dead horse with a stick at this point.
1. Hard to scream when you should be choking on your own blood from the broken nose
2. How could Trayvon see a gun that was holstered on George’s back if George was on his back?
Please don’t mix fantasy blog raving with clear facts, how ever hard it was to breath or scream, Zimmerman managed both, it certainly was not Trayvon screaming for help.
Again blog raving suggested that Zimmerman’s holster was in the silly location of the middle of his back, and there isn’t a place for a holster there. Just behind the bone of your hip, easily seen once Zimmerman’s jacket rides up and he is rolling from side to side to escape his attacker.
The only one racism that still exists in our country, is black racism, let us face it. Black liberation theology is a theoretical foundation of the black racism, and the practical implementors are Jeremiah Wright, Obama, Holder, Sharpton and tutti quanti. The black racism it a dead end for the African American Community (AAC), the most troubled and dysfunctional community in the US.
Instead of incorporating themselves in the world civilization, instead of realizing the color blind society based on mutual respect and meritocracy, is a way to go for blacks, AAC is saturated with hatred, propaganda of wrong ideas that include but not limited to abusing of affirmative action, racial hatred towards whites, racial riots to protect violent criminals, (like in Harrison where AAC were protecting a violent criminal who had robbed a Hindu shop owner with Ghandi portrait on the wall of his shop, and attacked a police officer), wrong ideas that the white racism is AAC’s the main problem.
AAC faces some serious problems that are situated inside of this community. Trayvon Martin symbolizes these problems: separated parents, suspension from school for violence and drug use, connections with street crime, suicidal tendencies to attack someone physically. Martin himself loved street fights, and advocated a decisive punch in the nose to win the battle. This is what he did to Z. The only unexpected for him thing was that Z had a gun. Martin wanted to play a knockout game on Z with impunity, and nobody said that it is a part of affirmative action for blacks – to punch with impunity, even Eric Holder wouldn’t say it, at least publicly.
Obama won elections twice because whites voted for him. If white racism was the main problem for AAC, Obama would never be elected. It means Black Liberation Theology is wrong. This Nazi style ideology has to be defeated by blacks themselves. It would be a good first step on a long road of self cleansing, self improvement, incorporating into the world civilization.
And by the way, Z is a Latino guy who tutored black kids for free, and defended a black homeless person against police. Racist? No way.
Wow. I gotta admit, this is an impressive comment. You managed to go from an article suggesting the need to start (continue?) a conversation in our society about the “fundamental disconnect between the United States’ racial narratives” to a ridiculous claim that the African American Community is characterized by some sort of “Nazi style ideology” … all in the space of 4 short paragraphs. That is some impressive rhetoric.
Thank you for so thoroughly proving the author’s point.
Black Liberation Theology is the prevailing ideology of the modern AAC, and it is racist, full of hatred and is a clear form of Nazism.